Friday, January 28, 2011
Blog_Juvenile Records
When an adult is found guilty of a crime, he is convicted and his conviction becomes part of his permanent record. When a juvenile is found guilty of committing a crime, he is adjudicated delinquent and his record is sealed (except under extraordinary circumstances). Once he becomes an adult, his juvenile delinquency record disappears. When an adult is sentenced to jail or prison, he has to serve his sentence until it is completed, no matter how old he becomes. When a juvenile is sentenced to a juvenile detention facility, he must be released by his 21st birthday, no matter what crime he has committed. Do you think this is fair? Why or Why not?
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I think that this is very unfair. just because they arent a adult they should be punished the same way an adult is and have to serve there full sentence. I also think that their record should stay with them because they did the crime so it should stay with them.
ReplyDeleteI think it's unfair because if a minor commits murder or theft or ant big crime like that, they deserves the same punishment of the adults. They know their acts are bad the same way adults do. And i think any crime should be put on anybody's permanent record juvenile or not.
ReplyDeleteI do because when the person committed the act they where young. They probaly didn't know what was going on when they did it or was following a certain crowd. Also they probaly still didnt know right from wrong. Also the kids that commited the crime was probaly nieive to what his friends was doing and being more of a follower.Another reason why i think this is fair because adults know what they are doing and after they do it they try to cover it up more than the child does. Adults try to sneak what they do like make sure everything is planed out and try not to leave any edvidence while a child doesnt really pay all that attention to that.
ReplyDeleteI think this is fair. When your a teenager or a kid you have a lot to learn and you make stupid mistakes. Just because a kid or teenager makes a mistake and commits a crime doesn't mean their record should be marked for their whole life. When your a teenager its a learning process. When your an adult you should know better then to commit a crime because it can ruin your life. As an adult you have had many years of experience and should know the difference from right and wrong. Therefore if you commit a crime you should be held accountable.
ReplyDeleteThis is fair because individual's under the age of 18 are both immature and not completely developed psychologically. When an adult commits a crime, they are treated more harshly because they have the ability to think at a higher level with clearer decision making skills. Juvenile's have a significant difference in decision making because certain parts of their brain are not fully developed. Overall, Juveniles should not be treated like adults in the justice system because they do not have the ability to think like an adult.
ReplyDeleteYes, because jueveniles are not suppose to get a long sentence as the fact to learn that its not the right thing to do. If they commit murder then they will be charged as a adult no matter what. The goal for the courts is to not put kids in jail but to teach them. Kids make mistakes and learn from them not thrown in jail for the rest of there life.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this law. They are supposed to learn from their mistakes and not to be severely punished for their crime. It may have been a total accident when they got in trouble. They also might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time and they got busted for a small crime. They should be able to leave a prison by the age of 21 to try and restart their life
ReplyDeleteI thnk that this is unfair because if a 17 year old and a 19 year old both commit first degree murder the 17 year old will have a clean record in just 4 years. But the 19 year old will have to finish his entire sentence and his record will never be cleared. I think that it would be different though if it was a 14 year old and a 19 year old though cause the 14 year old may not know fully what he is doing. Both the 17 and the 19 year old would though. I think the Juvenile age should be lowered.
ReplyDeleteI think it is fair because as an adult you should know what is right and wrong and a minor things can be a little different, plus I don't think that a minor could commit a crime that is that bad. However if they did, like it was mentioned in the article that there are special circumstances. I also think it is fair that a minor is released on their 21st birthday because by that time even if they were 17 when they committed the crime that is already 4 years. I think by this time the person will have enough time to realize what they did is wrong but if they don't and do it again then they will end up in jail anyway because now they are an adult.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it is fair that once a juvenile becomes of adult age his previous records are effaced. I feel like this gives this person a clean slate to start all over again once they hit adulthood. I think that their records should stay with them, reminding them of the poor choices they made as a kid and to hopefully not make as an adult. Also, if one gets into legal trouble as a juvenile, it is pretty common that they will continue this habit into adulthood. Juvenile delinquents cannot be "let off the hook" after their juvenile years. They have to better their lives as an adult, and erasing their previous records would not help with this.
ReplyDeleteI totally disagree with jake. He might commit crimes that are againest the law and he doesnt get in trouble. I say that if a kid commits murder that they should not just be released from jail at 21. They cant restart there life if they spent the last couple years in jail and have no money. So I disagree with jake and think that is dumb. Ya people are at sometimes at the wrong place at the wrong time but its your responsible to not hang out or get involved with those people and put you in that situation.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with Zach. Not only is he wrong, he can't use grammar right. If they get out of jail at 21, they atleast have a chance to make something of their life. Now if a 17 year old commits first degree murder, he should be charged as a adult. If he commits robbery though he shouldn't. He should get out by the time he is 21. This way he still has a chance to go to college, a 2 year school, or even a chance to get a job. If a 16 year old commits rape, yes it is wrong but he shouldn't go to jail for 20 years. At 16, he may not fully understand the wrong he has done. You want to take away a person's chance to have a good life because they make one mistake as a minor? I know if this happened to anyone your friends with, you would hope for the best for them. You wouldn't want to see them locked up until they are 30. If you know they are a good person, you would think they deserve a second chance.
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ReplyDeleteFirst off, 'Oh' not 'O.' Also 'Right' not 'Rite.' How can you assume they are going to get into drugs? Anyone could get into drugs and if they don't have money how will they get the drugs? If you don't want them to do it again but you also keep the charges against them, they could be in jail for 30 years. That teaches them nothing other than they commited a crime and they are in jail until they are 40. You aren't helping them doing that. To help them, you have to give them a second chance. How do they get a second chance when they don't get out of jail for a long time? They don't is the answer.
ReplyDeleteI think this is unfair. It all depends on what crime he committed. If he robbed someone maybe when he was 13 or something then I think that would be fair. Now if he committed something like murder, getting released on his 21st birthday is not fair at all. In the end it all depends on the type of crime he committed.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that this is fair at all. Just because you are under 18 does not mean that you are any less responsible for your actions than an adult would be. Your brain may not be fully developed, and your maturity level isn't as high as an adult's, but minors still have control of their own actions and judgments. They know right from wrong.
ReplyDeleteI think it all depends on the crime that was committed and if the child knew what s/he was doing was right or wrong. If the child commited murder when s/he was 13 then no i dont think it is fair because at that age you should know right from wrong. I also think it depends on the family situation at home, some kids are just raise wrong so the need reabilitation to learn how the world works. So sometimes it is fair and other times its not, all depends on the case.
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I don't think it is completely fair. If a 16 or 17 year old commits murder, they know what they are doing and they know it is wrong. They shouldn't just be let off easy. They should be punished like an adult.It's different if a younger kid, like a 12 year old, would do it. A kid that age doesn't completely understand the law.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't fair. Personally, I think that when someone turns 18 they should be transferred from a juvenile facility to a regular prison untill they do the time for their crime. No matter how old you are, if you do a crime you should go to jail for the amount of time that the judge has sentenced you for.
ReplyDeleteThis is not fair because they could have committed a worse crime than someone who is in "big kid prison". It's stupid, when they turn 18 they should be moved to an Adult Prison like the rest of the crimminals. If you kill someone, then you deserve to be punished, if you're doing really bad things as a child, then you are beyond reform as an adult. Send them to jail!
ReplyDeleteI don't think that this is fair at all. Just because you are under 18 does not mean that you are any less responsible for your actions than an adult would be. Your brain may not be fully developed, and your maturity level isn't as high as an adult's, but minors still have control of their own actions and judgments. They know right from wrong.
ReplyDeleteI think that it is unfair to release them from jail at age 21. But it also depends on the crime the juvenile had committed. If it was something like murder then they shouldn't be released. It doesnt teach them anything if they committed a crime at age 18 and 3 years later you are released.
ReplyDeleteIn keeping with the theme of rehabilitation as a consequence for the crimes of minors, yes, I would say that releasing them on their 21st birthday is fair. The goal of rehabilitation is to fix the problem in the person, not punish the person for the problem. Detention centers try to foster a positive change in the perpetrator and when their sentence is served, release them into society as an improved and functioning member. True, the problem may not be solved by age 21, but the creators of the system left four buffer years after adulthood, and if the person is really not well, there are sure to be adult rehabilitation facilities they can go to for further help.
ReplyDeleteI believe that it is fair that juvinile delinquents are released at age 21 because the goal of our penitentiary system is not just to punish, but rather to reform. Crimes committed by kids expecially, are often committed with much confusion, ignorance, and regret. By age 21, many have learned a lesson to better the next 40+ years of their life. I'm not saying that all of the young adults released are going to "staighten up", but we need to remain hopeful and optimistic for the ones that due. All that hope is extinguished if we lock them up for life.
ReplyDeleteI find the "exception" incredibly unfair. First of all, what the minor does is no less of crime than that of an adult. If the minor is under 10, than yes, they don't know better, but what about the 17 year old versus a 22 year old? The law is merely slapping the minor on the wrist and then turning them lose. If the minor gets special privileges, whose to say they won't continue to commit crimes. People, regardless of age, are responsible for their actions and should be punished accordingly.
ReplyDeleteI think that this is fair. I believe this because a juvenile delinquent is still a kid. Therefore, they deserve to be punished as such. Children, unlike adults, have a greater ability to learn from a crime. However, I belive that a juvenile delinquent should be put in a program to rehabilitate them instead of just being left free. Once agian, I do believe that this is fair as children should be rehabilitated and learn from their crimes.
ReplyDeleteThe current statures of the juvenile detention systems are adequate measures towards the reformation of our youth and therefore are indeed fair. The misguided children that are in these detention centers are just that, misguided and young, unaware of the full consequences of their actions. A child's brain is not even fully developed until age twenty-five, and hence they are not fully competent as to the acceptability of reasoning behind their actions. Of course, responsibility should not be completely lifted off of minors that have committed crimes, but more understanding should be exercised in cases dealing with such. Minors should be released by age twenty-one, seeing as a deteriorated childhood should not ruin one's future.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this is fair at all. Because if a kid kills a ton of people. He could get out of juvenile prison when he's 21.And when he gets out his entire record is wiped clean. I think they should be charged as an adult if it's something serious like that.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this is fair. A kid could go on a massive killing spree at the age of 17. Then he could get out of juvenile prison in 4 years with a clean slate. I think they should lower the juvenile age which could help stop people from committing the same crime twice.
ReplyDeleteI believe this is unfair.If a kid commits a crime there is no reason why they should be freed the second they turn 18. If they murder someone the day before they turn 18 and get out the next day they will not learn a lesson or get the proper punishment. Yes, they are kids and shouldn't have a life in prison but there should be greater punishment for more severe cases. To give every kid the same punishment for different crimes is unfair and not a smart method of punishment.
ReplyDeleteI think this is fair when it comes to certain cases. If it is something smaller than murder then they should be released by age 21. But if a 17 year old would commit murder, they knew what they were doing and should have more of a punishment.
ReplyDeleteI do think this is fair because often times when kids commit crime they don't understand the severity of the crime they committed because they aren't mature enough to understand. I think the method we have in place is an effective way for kids to learn their lesson.
ReplyDeleteSometimes this is fair, because adults should know better, like with smaller crimes. But with serious crimes like murder, sentences should be the same. People, no matter what age, know what they're doing. If a person has a bad record when they are younger, it shouldn't be sealed. They did it, and it should remain on there record for others to see.
ReplyDeleteI do not believe this is fair by any means. A crime is a crime whether you're an adult or not. I understand that kids make mistakes and do absent-minded things, yet when dealing with more severe crimes, the kids should have a greater consequence. To partake in a crime, you are aware in some sense that what you're doing is wrong, 18 years of age or not.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that this is fair. As a child, it is difficult to foresee the consequences of ones actions. The brain is not fully matured at this age, which sometimes causes children to act in ways they should not. If an adult commits the same crime, they are old enough to know what they did was wrong and pay for their actions for a long amount of time.
ReplyDeleteI think that it's fair because the kids are young and they aren't sure of their actions. They do before they thing and sometimes they aren't sure if its right or wrong, so I don't think it should stay with the kids record. It should be cleared at some point. Now as an adult they know the right from wrong and it should stay with their record.
ReplyDeleteJust because the juvenile turns 18 and "officially becomes an adult" doesn't mean that their record should be wiped clean. Turning 18 doesn't mean that the juvenile automatically becomes adult minded and is a noble citizen. They can still do the same offense even as an adult.
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